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will not be treated as an enemy combatants. i strongly disagree with the obama administration's decision to rollout enemy combatants status for this suspect at this time. >> sticking around for the second part of our debate, he fled with his tail between his legs. senator lindsey graham and senator talked about obama not try him as an enemy combatants. it was said to see him go, he was a fine figure and a state senator, isn't it? >> al a high state legislature is much more sophisticated than we saw here today. >> let's talk about lindsey graham. sang the government should have left dzhokhar tsarnaev as an enemy combat and, at least on the table as a possibility. >> it is not permissible under the law. you cannot treat an american citizen who is accused of committing an american crime against mostly american citizens in boston as an enemy combatants. it would turn our country -- >> it has never happened before. >> into martial law. the supreme court struck that down and american citizens were charged with crimes and this fellow is being charged with an ordinary crime that anybody could be charged wi
should be tried as an enemy combatant in the military tribunal. but i think the obama administration was arguing very reasonably this was basically a u.s. citizen. tsarnaev had recently been naturalized, who committed allegedly, these acts on u.s. soil. so it was pretty straightforward. and you know, what's been left out of the conversation, i think is just how troubled the military tribunal system has become. it has really become difficult. a lot of tainted evidence, a lot of questions about whether, in any way, you can reconcile the procedures of these military tribunals with the constitution. that's something the administration didn't want to get into particularly given as carney pointed out you've had hundreds of terrorists prosecuted in u.s. courts and quite successfully. >> bill: in fact, senator dianne feinstein and yesterday jay carney made the same point that it would be -- it is unconstitutional to try an american citizen as an enemy combatant, right? an american citizen has certain rights under the constitution which we just can't ignore. >> yeah, i mean you know, there ar
. >> he will not be treated as an enemy combatant. we will prosecute this terrorist through our civilian system of justice. >> i strongly disagree with the obama administration's decision to rule out enemy combatant status for this suspect. >> reporter: and the question of whether the fbi dropped the ball in 2011 when it looked at tamerlan tsarnaev's activity will be the subject of a closed-door briefing on capitol hill later today, when law enforcement officials brief lawmakers. john? >> all right, barbara starr, thanks so much. barbara starr in washington. i want to bring back fran townsend, cnn analyst, former homeland security adviser to president george w. bush. and fran, i want to get your take here. where do you think the investigation stands right now? we've had these initial criminal complaints given dzhokhar tsarnaev. we've seen sort of the case laid out just a little bit. but how about the investigation itself? what are the next steps? >> well, first of all, we know from investigators that they're cooperating with the russians. i talked to sources, federal sources, and the coo
. can an american citizen be considered and enemy combatant? absolutely. it goes back to the civil war war ii.orld killed t barack obama one in the wilds of yemen. if you affiliate yourself with and go to war against american citizens and willfully on behalf of a movement or an enemy then you can be considered an enemy combatant. if in world war ii you went to you are noti forces an enemy combatant? of course you are. host: hina shamsi. it is true u.s. citizens can take up arms against the united states and then they what is called understood belligerents.r the problem here that we are extending and s expanding the laws of war far beyond what is constitutionally permitted under the laws themselves. charles was exactly right. what the suspect is accused of terrorism. if we think of what timothy was done in --at mcveigh did or what was done in bombing, we ark idn't treat those tragedies as acts of war. we appropriately treated them as had to be ts that investigated, prosecuted and appropriately punished. we had an american citizen who was killed on the orders of president obama. commit a
. markey. the obama administration has chosen to prosecute the surviving suspect in the bombings in the federal court system. instead of before a military tribunal as an enemy combatant were where they have fewer constitutional protections. did they do the right thing? 90 seconds, sir. >> yeah, i believe that president obama and his justice department are completely committed to ensuring that case. is done in this we all heard president obama last week. he said there is a part of boston in him. he said that justice would be done in this case. if in the opinion of president obama and his justice department, the proper place for prosecution is here in the federal district court system of the state of massachusetts, i believe that the court system here in massachusetts can provide that kind of a venue in order to hear this case. so i defer to president obama. i defer to his justice department if in their judgment this is the proper place in order to conduct that trial. >> thank you, sir. mr. lynch, 90 seconds. >> john, i think that we do have sufficient laws in our iminal system to
be considered an enemy combatant? >> guest: absolutely goes back to the civil war. goes certainly to world war ii. anwar al-awlaki was american-born. president obama use ad drone to kill him in the wilds of yemen. if you, if you fill eight yourself with enemy forces and you go to war against american citizens and you kill americans will fully and you do so on behalf of a movement or enemy forces then indeed you can be considered an enemy combatant. being a enemy combatant simply because you're an american citizen. if in world war ii you went over and joined nazi forces were you not a enemy combatant? of course you were. . . >> he didn't treat those terrible tragedies as access war, but appropriately treated them as heinous criminal acts to be investigated, prosecuted, and appropriately punishes. >> host: al-alwaki was an american citizen, kimed on orders of president obama. did president obama violate the constitution by doing that? >> guest: well, actually, we have a lawsuit in which we are seeking to get answers from the administration about what legal standards they used and invoked. >> see
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